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Producers
play intricate roles at WAMUs Kojo Nnamdi Show
BY
MIKE UNGER
PHOTOS BY JEFF WATTS
Two
minutes until air, and hes gone.
James
Jones is the author of Kinsey: A Public/Private Life, and
today hes supposed to join WAMUs The Kojo Nnamdi
Show by phone from Little Rock, Ark., where hes slipped
away from the ceremony dedicating President Clintons new library.
But
Jones, whos called in on a cell phone from the quietest place
he could findthe bathroom of a nearby hotelhas become
a victim of technology. Complications with both his cell and WAMUs
phone lines have conspired to sever the connection.

Photo by Jeff
Watts
Diane
Vogel
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In
the fourth-floor control room at WAMUs Brandywine Street headquarters,
managing producer Diane Vogel, producer Teri Cross Davis, and various
engineers scramble to make some sense of the maze of wires, computers,
and phone banks packed into the cramped quarters.
Just
a few feet away, in an adjacent room visible through a thick panel
of glass, sits Nnamdi, seemingly miles from the organized chaos
of the control room.
Its
not abnormal that its a little frenzied, broadcast technician
Margo Kelly says. What counts is that it all comes out right
on the air.
Outwardly
undistracted by the turbulence in the control room, Nnamdi welcomes
his audience and another guest to the airwaves with the customary
cool of a seasoned media professional. Eventually, Jones is patched
through onto the broadcast and contributes a unique perspective
to a fascinating discussion of sex researcher Alfred Kinseys
life and career. To the listeners, it sounds like business as usual.
It
many ways, it was. Producing nine hours of live radio a week perpetually
presents Nnamdi, Vogel, and the staff of two full-time producers,
one part timer, an intern, and engineers with unanticipated situations.
You
do get a rush when you finish the show, Cross Davis says.
I try to remember that people dont see whats going
on in the control room. The thing Im thinking about is, Does
Kojo have the information he needs?
Conducting
research on a plethora of show topics designed to stimulate thought
and prompt debate falls largely on the shoulders of Vogel and her
staff.
The
behind-the-scenes work of the producers is invaluable says Nnamdi,
whos hosted the show since 1998. The producers on this
show prop me up. If it werent for them, I would fall flat
on my face.
No
two days the same
Vogels workday begins around 9 a.m., when she arrives at the
station from her Arlington home. Shes already read the Washington
Post, and when she gets to her sixth-floor office, she scans
other publications to ensure no earthshattering news has broken
overnight.
An
hour later, Vogel takes the elevator to the studio and distributes
the rundown, a sheet listing that days guests.
While downstairs, she scans Nnamdis mail, instantly identifying
both must-see parcels and junk, and picks up a plastic mail bin
filled with new, hardcover nonfiction books. The show receives eight
to 10 new books every day from publishers and authors.
Vogel,
a former education and civil rights attorney who started at WAMU
as a volunteer in 1997, says that she and the other producers are
voracious readers.
You
have to have an intellectual curiosity to be a producer of any talk
show, she says. A slight bit of ADD is probably a good
thing too.
Back
upstairs, Vogel sets the bin in the middle of the floor of the shows
main office, an open work area with producers desks lining
the perimeter. Books, magazines, CDs, newspapers, and mail are piled
on every available surface. Maps adorn the walls, and a large dry-erase
board in the corner displays upcoming show topics. Confirmed ideas
are written in black, proposed ones in red.
The
topic selection process is collaborative. The producers pitch ideas
to Vogel, who suggests them to Nnamdi, who accepts many, rejects
a few, and comes up with some of his own.
If
youre going to do two hours of radio a day, and keep it fresh
and lively, it starts with having a variety of interesting topics,
Nnamdi says. And that starts with having a variety of people.
You cant help but notice the diversity of this staff. Weve
got people of different ages, different genders, different races.
But what you dont see is the diversity of interests, which
is not related to ethnicity, nor class, nor race.
Once
a topic is chosen, it is assigned to a lead producer, who is responsible
for booking the guests and filling a manila file folder with research
notes and suggested lines of questioning that Nnamdi can access
during the broadcast.
Scheduling
live radio is tricky, Vogel says. Logistics are always
a challenge, because [guests have] to be available between 12 and
2 [the shows time slot]. Were looking for somebody who
is an expert on a topic, but who can tell a story in an interesting
way and avoid talking in jargon. You also need a diversity of voices
in radio because your audience needs to distinguish voices. Its
sometimes good to pair a younger man or someone with an accent with
a woman.
Im
looking for a range [of topics], she says. Theres
social issues, international politics, local politics, cultural,
historical, entertainment. We try to give a variety to everyone.
A
few minutes before 11, producer John Haas brings Vogel a script
of promos that Nnamdi records daily at 11:20. She tinkers with the
wording before handing it to Nnamdi as they go downstairs to one
of the stations three recording studios.
I
edit them for pithiness and readability, she says. I
dont want Kojo to stumble over anything.
Nnamdi
reads the promos with the silky smoothness his listeners are accustomed
to, and the pair proceed back upstairs for last minute preparations.
At precisely 11:58, they return to the studio for two hours of the
roller coaster ride that is live radio.

Photo by Jeff
Watts
Managing
producer Diane Vogel and host Kojo Nnamdi prepare for a
show earlier this month. Nnamdi has hosted the WAMU talk
show since 1998.
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A
home run?
By 12:30, the show has settled into a comfortable groove. The technical
glitches have been ironed out, the phone lines are lighting up like
a Christmas tree and Cross Davis is receiving some intellectually
provocative e-mails from listeners.
Were
looking for e-mails and phone questions that raise a question we
havent thought of or a line of questioning that we want broached,
Vogel says.
The
lead producer can speak directly to Nnamdi through his headphones
or communicate with him via computer. Today, Cross Davis keeps Nnamdi
apprised of the technical difficulties and impending station breaks,
while passing along some of the better e-mailed questions and comments
from listeners. She also periodically reminds him to warn the audience
that the Kinsey show focuses on an adult topic.
Todays
second hour, a regular feature called Sporting Views,
runs much smoother. Former Washington Redskins defensive end Dexter
Manley and former Post sports editor George Solomon are in-studio
guests, and along with Nnamdi they opine on issues ranging from
the Skins woeful offense to a burgeoning scandal involving
the football program at Ohio State University.
At
1:58, its all over, another show in the books. Back in her
office a few minutes later, Vogel sits behind her desk, every inch
of which is blanketed with papers and orders shrimp fried rice and
chicken with mixed vegetables in garlic sauce for her and Nnamdi.
Its a time to reflect on the days performance and set
her sights on the future.
In
any week you want three hours to be home runs, Vogel says.
You want two or three to be solid doubles and triples. You
want the rest to be singles and doubles. I think today was a single
or a double.
Most
of the time if I get a solid double or triple Im happy,
she says. In my mind, the difference between a double and
a home run is almost undescribable. It could be where a listener
called in or a guest made a terrific point that was unexpected.
You hope you dont get any strikeouts.
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