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Table Talk panelists debate ideology behind Iraq war

BY ADRIENNE FRANK


Photo by Jeff Watts

Lawrence Kaplan, of the New Republic, left, discusses the Iraq war as university chaplain Joe Eldridge looks on.

The election may be history, but—as evidenced by a heated Table Talk discussion last Wednesday titled “Presidential Sweepstakes: Impact of U.S. Foreign Policy”—it appears both sides remain deeply entrenched.

During the discussion, panelists Lawrence Kaplan, senior editor of the New Republic, and Phil Brenner, professor at the School of International Service, touched on issues pertaining to North Korea, Iran, and Palestine, but focused the majority of their comments on the Iraq war. And while both agreed that, under the Bush administration, American troops will be in Iraq for years to come, their perspectives diverged greatly when the discussion turned towards their personal ideologies. Kaplan argued that American power is the “linchpin of world order,” while Brenner submitted that U.S. power often results in mayhem.

According to Kaplan, the situation in Iraq is one in which “You know you’re going to lose, but you can’t afford to lose. It’s one of those things that the president, dare I say, is religiously committed to. Under a Kerry administration—I’m fairly certain from interviewing some of his advisors—we would’ve skedaddled out of Iraq within a few months, but the fact is, America’s tied down in Iraq for now and will be for many years.”

Kaplan also stressed throughout the discussion that “American power is really a force for good in the world,” citing the fact that Iraq is slowly moving towards democracy. He added that errors in Iraq are “errors of implementation that don’t reflect the ideals that generated the war in the first place.”

Brenner said the election was “a mandate for war” and agreed that America will be at war for “the indefinite future.” He noted that when issues of foreign policy were brought up during the presidential debates, Kerry and Bush were both “steering towards U.S. global domination,” agreeing that “the U.S. is the only country that can bring order to this chaotic place [Iraq].”

He explained that Kerry favored “soft power”—the notion that American values and the American economy are attractive to the rest of the world, and that other nations will eventually join “our side.” Bush and the Republicans, on the other hand, favor a “tough love approach”—the idea that America knows what’s best for other nations and will act accordingly.

“The two debated the methods of achieving order, not whether or not we should achieve it,” said Brenner, adding that the latter was the more pressing question. He also said Bush’s approach “is likely to produce far more deaths,” and thus the U.S. occupation of Iraq has resulted in more chaos than order.

“If you mean to do bad things with this country’s military might, it’s very easy to do that,” Kaplan said, responding to Brenner’s argument. “But I don’t think that’s the case here.”

 












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